The content of these letters do not necessarily represent the views of the Border Convention Clubs or Committee.

Standard Classification and Numbering

Standard Classification and standard numbering would make things so much easier for exhibitors and show secretaries by using the same classification for all shows.

Take for example Flighted Variegated Yellow Cock would be the same class number at every show, and if we mark the Novice class with the letter N the novice classes could also start at 1 albeit N1.
Champion Flighted Variegated Yellow Cock would be class 9, and the Novice Flighted Variegated Yellow Cock would be N9.

We also would know that all Cocks would be in odd numbered classes, and all hens in the even numbered classes
The Convention could make up laminated copies of the Standard Classification which fanciers could hang on their bird shed wall.

The Convention could also print and hand it to the Clubs off large amounts as standard entry forms which would bring the cost down, and hand it to the Clubs as a goodwill gesture towards their affiliation fee.
There would be no need to print expensive schedules by sending out the Standard entry form , with a single sheet detailing the Venue, Opening and Closing times, checking in times Secretaries address and closing date for entries .
However Clubs still wishing to print a schedule would be welcome to do so, provided they adhere to the standard classification and numbering

Malcolm Barnett
I.B.B.A Secretary

Show Classification

A short while ago along with Anita, I suggested in the journal we had some ideas that may improve our hobby on breeding and showing Borders.

In 2018 I think it is about time that all clubs affiliated to the convention should be thinking about standardising their classification. This would make it better and easier for exhibitors entering birds and also the judges at the shows.

I hear exhibitors discussing Heavy variegated birds on whether they are wrong classed. In my opinion Green Three parts dark and Green Heavily variegated should be in the same class thus stopping confusion about their suitability and leave it as any age class. We have the four U/f Green variegated classes which have the most entries and then we would have another four good Green classes. Do the same with the cinnamons, four classes of cinnamon variegated and four classes of Cinnamon Three parts dark with the Cinnamon heavily variegated.

Some may say it is easier to win through from the smaller classes but it is your own choice what birds you want to breed.
I cannot see any valid reason why any club can argue against the Classification being standardised.
Regards Cliff Britton

Water ,water everywhere…and not a drop to drink (with apologies to the ancient Mariner)

I’m fed up attending shows (both as an exhibitor and a judge) and seeing birds that are suffering because they are not drinking. This is a state of affairs that should not be permitted to continue.

I would like to see a exhibitors permitted to use a small-standardised (by the Border Convention)tube drinker to be situated on the perch furthest from the seed drawer on the “back “ of the show cage as you look at it.
It is easy to say “train your birds before your bring them to the show”. Most responsible fanciers do this…and yet…some Borders when placed in the show hall environment simply refuse to drink.

We ALL know this and ALL see this at EVERY show, but what’s being done about it?

This is bad enough over a one day show, but over the course of a two day event it can be catastrophic resulting in the loss of, or long term adverse effect to a bird.

Remember this…the current show cage was designed in the 1930’s and the birds of those years ,( in fact up to the 70’s) bore no resemblance to today’s birds, some very long legged birds find it extremely difficult to drink especially (as is common practice)if the top hat is only half filled prior to judging ,to prevent bathing.

A small tube drinker-standardised with a designated perch to place it on would be unobtrusive and no hindrance to the judge or the observer.

Some will argue that birds will bathe in tube drinkers; well I have judged Borders on the continent and have attended many shows there where tube drinkers are used as a matter of course and I have not seen this as an issue.

Quite simply, this is a matter of welfare and that should take precedence over anything else.
I would like an affiliated club to propose this as a mandate; I think it would be a positive move if adopted.

Colm Southern

Editors Note
Minutes of the Border Convention Commitee Meeting
Held on Sunday 28th June 2009.

Mini Drinkers - Colin Egner reported that he has received an email from Colm Southern from Southern Ireland in relation to mini drinkers. Colm has asked if there is any rule which would stop the use of mini drinkers (small tube drinker) being attached to the show cage of a Border which is not drinking after judging. The members thought that the health and safety of the bird in the cage is the most important consideration. There are no Border Convention rules which would stop a fancier from doing this and if an exhibitor asked the show manager there should be no reason to stop this practice, obviously after judging.

This was revisited to clarify the drinker could be put on prior to judging if the bird was showing signs of not drinking, but must be removed prior to judging and replaced afterwards.

This item has also been highlighted on the website .

Hi Colin,

I really feel you’ve missed the point of my letter by adding on your Editors note.

I want the drinker on the cages while the birds are judged…that’s the whole point.

Your note below only serve to confuse the matter.


Hi Colm,
Sorry you feel this way.

However the purpose of the letters column is that everyone can express a view, or make a statement including the editor.

With a very emotive title “Water, water everywhere…and not a drop to drink “ I felt it needed a response, especially when the Border Convention has offered an alternative (nine years ago),

I felt this should be pointed out and make no apologies for doing so.
Respectfully yours,

Congratulations To Mick King

Phil Dewland would like to congratulate his good friend Mick King from Dorset on his two Gold wins with his Border Canaries at the world show, well done Mick.

From Phil Dewland.

Don Harrisnon

May I take this time to thank Don for both his quality work, dedication and time spent over the years producing the journal, it has without doubt been integral to the Border Fancy at large, and has never failed to make a good read.

The last one was a true swan song to go out on - and I congratulate Don for that.

In turn we must all welcome and thank Simon for taking over the reins, and do all we can to support him going forward - as ever it will only be a good as those who contribute into it.

Enjoy your birds

Kind Regards
Andrew Triolo


At our April Meeting a Presentation was made to Mr. Sid Moyers by our new President Mr. Robert Norman. This was in the form of a Clock inscribed “Presented to Sid from the B.B.F.C.C.” and a thank you card signed by many members of the Border Convention, Merseyside and all Officials of The British Border F.C.C. This was in recognition of his long serving Presidency 2000-2015 and his commitment to his life in the Border Fancy.

Sid joined the B.B.F.C.C. in the 1960’s and has been a member and Committee member ever since.

Sid was Secretary of Merseyside B.F.C.C. from when it was formed in 1973 until a few years ago. Sid was also a founder member of The Border Convention in the 1970’sand a past President of the Convention and served on the Committee for many years.

Sid was well known on the Judging circuit and Judged all major Specialist Border Shows in Scotland, Wales and England including the record breaking show at Winsford in the 1980’s.

Sid has now retired from the Border fancy due to ill health. Sid will be 90 in November and all of us at the British Border would like to wish him a happy retirement.

R. S. Norman.
General Secretary B.B.F.C.C.

The Border Fancy Canary what lies ahead?

As we look at 2015 Show results we again see a decline in the number of exhibitors and entries at our annual shows, how long can this be allowed to continue? At the present rate there will be no shows to exhibit at in less than 5 years from now. So how can we help stop the decline that we all can see right in front of us?

The following thoughts have been going through my head for some time and I feel if we do not try something soon then we will all witness the end of the fancy after 125 years. A recent AGM showed that the membership was now down to 60 members when at the clubs peak it could boast of 1000 members

My thoughts are as follows, perhaps the Convention take on board the following

  • 1. Membership be set at £50.00 per year Subscriptions to be paid on or before 31st March each year this is to allow Patronage to be distributed to clubs. Only members that have paid their Subs on or before 31st March can compete for specials at that years shows.
  • 2. The UK be split up into Sectors (4 England)(1 Wales)(1 Northern Ireland & Eire)( 1 Scotland).
  • 3. £25.00 From each members subs be allocated to their Sector for example 20 members in Scotland would mean £500.00 to be allocated to a Scottish Area Club Show.All border Shows in the Sector would be on a rota to receive Area club Show.
  • Other Example is Midlands Area could have 25 Members this would give the Midlands Area show £625.00 Again a rota of All Border Show would be in place this format would be used in all areas
  • 4. Next a further £10.00 from members Subs would be allocated to a UK Club Show which would be run in conjunction with the International Show being run as it is at present. If in total there were 100 member in the UK this would give £1000.00 to be allocated in Specials at the International Show.
  • 5. The moneys allocated for the shows would be split up to cover each section EG. Clears ,Variegated,3/4Dark, Green, Cinnamon and Whites
  • 6. Each Member would also receive A copy of the Convention Journal as part of their membership. This would be paid from the annual subscription of £50.00.
  • 7. With the remainder of the Subscription this would cover The Secretary’s other costs
  • 8. The administration of the club would be done online and any changes that were to be made would also done online with every member being able to contribute to any debate
    • The reason for the 31st March Cut off is to stop those that only pay subs if they have had a good breeding season or a wee win on the lottery allowing them to purchase their show team for the season in other words all subs paid between 1st April and 31st march gives you the opportunity to take part in the Next year’s show season.

      If there was support for these thoughts then I am sure a full set of Rules and Conditions could be easily agreed to

      Ian Anderson
      57 Dunsmore Road, Bishopton, Renfrewshire PA7 5EL

Sid Moyers